Financial Statements Q & A with Caroline Warburton from iCount


Good evening everyone, and welcome to the latest ASN FREE Q & A session on Financial Statements with Caroline Warburton (AAT Tutor of the Year) from iCount. If you have any questions, please post as a comment below. Please be aware, if any questions are left unanswered, then they will be answered at a later time. And thank you all for participating…..now over to you, who has the first question?

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard Caroline welcome and thank you

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Hi Everyone, looking forward to all your questions! 🙂

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Tracey Hunter
Tracey Hunter I’m currently studying and struggling with financial performance, should I do statements next whilst it’s fresh in my head or is it something totally different

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Hi Tracey Hunter, Financial Performance is a management accounting paper, whilst Financial Statements is looking more at the Financial Accounting, its a step up from Accounts preparation at Level 3. It is a very different paper, but there are some cross over parts. The ratios for example feature in the Financial statements paper as well as Financial Performance

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Tracey Hunter
Tracey Hunter Oh no more dreadful ratios lol

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton They get easier…I promise!!!! 🙂

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard Caroline are they any additional resources you suggest for this unit?

Adrianne Knowles
Adrianne Knowles (Kind of related to financial performance I think!) what order would you study the level 4 units in? I know a lot of people attempt either personal tax or financial performance first, I just wondered if this was because f.p leads on to everything else? Pure curiosity from a near-finishing level 3 student!

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton I would definitely suggest using the AAT Green Light tests, and most definitely familiarise yourself with the AAT sample papers to get used to the layout of the paper. Doing a set of statements on the computer in your exam and showing your workings can be very different to doing them on paper when you are revising!

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Tracey Hunter
Tracey Hunter 🙂 that was my next question, what level 3 should I go over to assist with this module 😉

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Hi Adrianne Knowles, Financial Performance is usually studied after completing the Budgeting paper as Budgeting is Management accounting as well, so a lot of students tend to start on Budgeting, then progress onto Financial Performance and then move onto Financial Statements

Adrianne Knowles
Adrianne Knowles Thanks for your help!

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Rita Lees
Rita Lees Hi, I dont start financial statements for quite a few months yet at college but just wondering if theres any particular topics you suggest to pre-read and get familar with (any that take a lot of learning or that students struggle with) I have got an osborne textbook already & will get a kaplan one at college when we start it.

Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard IAS how much detail do you have to know?

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Hi Rita Lees I would definitely suggest going over the Accounts Preparation (ACPR) and Prepare Final Accounts (FSTP) at Level 3. There are some adjustments which you are expected to be able to do as part of Financial Statements…remember Accruals and Prepayments?!

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Rita Lees
Rita Lees Gotta love them :p

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton They are definitely referred to again throughout Financial Statements! Also where the elements of the accoutns sit, for example profit and Loss holds the income and expense accounts and Statement of Financial Position the Assets, Liabilities and Capital

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Natasha Everard
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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton IAS’s…they dont need to be learnt in full word for word, what you have to understand is what we refer to as the ‘Spirit of the standard’ so as long as you can apply them, and I also suggest try explaining them to other people, if you can do that you are well prepared to explain them in the exam.

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton You can get written questions, multiple choice, and numerical questions to demonstartae your knowledge on the IAS’s

Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard Thank you

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard What is your best advice on the written sections?

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Suzanna Rich
Suzanna Rich Good evening.How has the unit changed for the 2016 standards?

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Hi Suzanna, There arent vast changes to this paper, the ethical principles are now making an appearance under the new standards, and the code of professional Ethics as well!

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton To break them down into sections, for example ratio anaylsis is usually covered. so when you are analysing a ratio the best thing to do is to discuss what goes into the ratio itself, so if you are analysing Gross profit margin, this is (gross profit/sales) X 100 so you should talk about the areas of the accounts which influence these areas in the ratios. It can help you keep on track and to produce a clearer answer

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard What are the problem areas in the unit that students normal struggle with or need further attention?

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Definitely the IAS’s, and the explanation of them in the written questions, the IASB Framework and its application to Financial Statements…and finally the ratio analysis, its usually Task 3, 4 and 8 in the exams

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton The IASB Framework can be forgotten when revising as its often covered early on in a course to set the scene for preparing the accounts

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Caroline Clarke
Caroline Clarke Are the AAT sample papers fairly consistent with the actual exam regards proportion of written questions to statement preparation?

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard Ratios as mentioned before, appear both in FS & FP, are they any tips to remembering them?

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Natasha…honestly good old fashioned practice!! Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! I remember making myself learn 3 a week whilst I was studying and try to leanr them before I went to sleep using little revision cards, and then chanting them the next morning to test myself! That way you arent trying to learn them all in one go

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard Excellent tip 🙂

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton HI Caroline Clarke I believe they are quite consistent, the assessment performance available on the AAT website is an excellent support material, which gives you information about each task and also what to expect in the tasks

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Caroline Clarke
Caroline Clarke Also, Financial Statements is my first L4 module, do students tend to find this easier or harder than other modules? Difficult to answer I guess as everyone has different strengths but trying to prepare myself for what’s to come!

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton I think it definitely depends on the student….if you like the financial accounting papers at level 3 – ACPR and FSTP rather than the Costing papers you will find this one a more natural step up

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard I struggle with Financial Performance and hoping that Financial Statements is kinder to me as i enjoyed AP1 & AP2

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton One thing to mention about Financial Statements is that it is quite a big syllabus to cover!

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Natasha Everard if you preferred AP1 & 2 you will definitely find Financial Statements more your cup of tea!! 🙂

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard Just the little hurdle of finishing Financial Performance then 🙂

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard What are your top tips for studying this unit?

Karlene Clissold
Karlene Clissold Hi Caroline, I have just been reading through the msgs to catch up. Good to hear that it is a follow on from AP1 and AP2. Is there a lot of legal jargon to remember?

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton To study this unit…I would definitely suggest a lot of practice…the thing to remeber is that to produce a set of statements they are always done a similar way, so practising will prepare you very well.

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton The definitions are also crucial to this exam

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Hi Karlene Clissold, not legal jargon as such, you do need to understand the legal framework which applies to companies, so the Companies Act is important.

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton I would say that rather than legal jargon, make sure the definitions are known before you go near the exam room! 🙂

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Going back to studying this unit…Dont forget to make sure you practice consolidating the group of company accounts, as well as for single companies.

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard Calculations are fine, its the written part that scares me…..

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Karlene Clissold
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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton I think everyone feels the same in all honesty, I had that conversation just last night with some students whove just stepped up to Level 4, and they felt the same…I know its hard to do so, but its always worth attempting a writted question and asking someone at work or home to mark it for you, if you can explain your points to them it will prepare you really well

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Are there any particular areas anyone would like any help with?

Karlene Clissold
Karlene Clissold Thanks for that, this will be my next subject and fairly important to my workload. What sort of questions will they ask in the written tasks?

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton The written questions are usually based on ratio analysis, the IASB Framework, and the IAS’s…the assessment feedback gives lots of details on this link https://www.aat.org.uk/…/L4-Diploma-Accounting-FSTM.pdf you’ll need to login to the AAT website to access it as well, but it breaks down each task so you know whats coming!

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Claire Gilmartin
Claire Gilmartin I’m struggling on consolidated financial statements. What order do you recommend doing the calculations?

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton There are also some great webinars in the AAT study support materials which go over ratio analysis and some of the tricky areas of the syllabus.

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton HI Claire Gilmartin, I would suggest goodwill first when attempting the SOFP, and then I generally work my way down the statement step by step, if there is a PUP – Provision for Unrealised profit, always do that first as it can feed into a few of the adjustments when bringing the statements together. I always stress the use of workings boxes in the exam so even if you make a transposition error you will still gain as many marks as possible for the other areas.

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Claire Gilmartin
Claire Gilmartin Thank-you 🙂

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Natasha Everard
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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard Do we have any further questions?

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Another tip….if you do struggle to remember the adjustments from level 3 which feed into the level 4 financial statements papers, AAT study support also has some webinars which go over quite a lot of the adjustments and how they affect the accounts which can really help at level 4

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton The webinars are in the level 3 study support section, but a great refresher! 🙂

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Tracey Hunter
Tracey Hunter A lot of magnificent questions again 👍

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Karlene Clissold
Karlene Clissold Thank you Caroline and Natasha, there has been a lot of tips here tonight!

Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton If anyone would like to ask me anything after today please feel free to send me an email anytime… caroline@icounttraining.com I’m more than happy to help out!

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Suzanna Rich
Suzanna Rich Youve been excellent, please do another Q and A! 🙂

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton Thanks Suzanna! 🙂

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard Thank you for everyone who participated in tonights event and you will be pleased to know that Caroline will back in a couple of weeks with another Q & A 🙂

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Karlene Clissold
Karlene Clissold Which subject?

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Katie Lowen Bookkeeper
Katie Lowen Bookkeeper Thank you Caroline, I’ve been watching and taking notes. I really appreciate your time 🙂

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Natasha Everard
Natasha Everard Thank you Caroline 🙂

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Caroline Warburton
Caroline Warburton You’re very welcome! Ive enjoyed it!!

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Rita Lees
Rita Lees Thanks very useful info 🙂

Tina Hanlon
Tina Hanlon Thank you, it was very enlightening although a little beyond us at the moment. It does help to read the comments though as it made us aware of what we would be working through at Level 4.